Sticky STACKS - Product Feedback

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  1. Steve Harris

    Steve Harris Museologist Staff Member Moderator

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    Hey All!

    OK, here's what we're trying to do with Stacks...

    We've talked to a ton of users about the way they use templates, and it seems that many (or most) don't use the entire site. Rather they pick apart certain elements, copying and pasting those elements into their site and restyling them to fit. As Muse designers you probably know this already!

    So we thought why not create a product that's modular in nature - a system of building blocks that you could pick and choose from, but didn't require you to open a full site and copy items out. These building blocks would live in your library panel, and you could drag them out as needed.

    The great / weird thing about responsive Muse is that if we copy and paste an element that has revised layouts for different breakpoints into a NEW .Muse file, all of those responsive layouts will be lost - unless that Muse file has the same breakpoints pre-setup. So all of our stacks will use the same breakpoints, and we'll distribute a base or starter file along with them.

    That's the theory, as we've said this is an experimental product. A pack of Stacks would consist of 10-12 total components. 2-3 header / navigation options, 5 content areas and 2 footers. You could also combine components from different packs of Stacks (since they all use the same breakpoint system) and then just restyle to fit your site.

    We've put together a pack of 2 simple Stacks to get some feedback! Here's how to get started:

    1. Visit our beta testing page (make sure you're signed in to your MT account) and download our sample pack here:
      http://www.muse-themes.com/pages/beta-downloads

    2. Open up the "base" file with preset breakpoints

    3. Navigate to the smallest breakpoint, and drag out a stack. We find it easiest to drop a stack on the smallest layout, and center it as needed (this isn't essential, you can drop at any breakpoint really).

    4. Jump back to any other breakpoint, and see how they stack responds.

    5. Drop more stacks below... build a full site. Make money, win awards, great success!
    This is just a small pack with two content elements, so you won't be able to build a full site. Our goal is to give you a huge variety of layouts, headers, footers, galleries, etc. that you can drag / drop into place to build a full site quickly.

    One important thing to note is about element positioning across breakpoints. Muse seems to position things very randomly. So if you drop something at 960, often it's overlapping other elements on a bigger / smaller BP. We've been trying to find some ways around this (we have some potential solutions) but you still may need to make a positioning adjustment on other breakpoints. To make this easier, the Stack area is grouped and can be moved as a whole.

    What do you guys think?

    Thanks,
    SH
     
    Last edited: Mar 4, 2016
  2. edgydoug

    edgydoug New Member

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    hey Steve what's the basic premise and features of Stacks? I understand that it's related in some way to Muse responsive sites.
     
  3. CRAIG

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  4. Levi Jones

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  5. Jeremei

    Jeremei Well-Known Member

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    Everyone is waiting eagerly for "Stacks"!
     
  6. Ray Harrison

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    Can't wait for them to come out!!
     
  7. BlueChrome

    BlueChrome New Member

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    Curious to see what you've come up with.
     
  8. GC Roush II

    GC Roush II New Member

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    I'm sure that "Stacks" will be cutting edge and exciting...I've been with Muse -Themes from the beginning and have never been let down or disappointed.
     
  9. Emmanuel

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    Very Very impatient for Stacks
     
  10. calipimousse

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    You got me wondering what is coming!
     
  11. Bruno

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    Expecting the big and fast thing ;-)
     
  12. Steve Harris

    Steve Harris Museologist Staff Member Moderator

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    Hey All!

    OK, here's what we're trying to do with Stacks...

    We've talked to a ton of users about the way they use templates, and it seems that many (or most) don't use the entire site. Rather they pick apart certain elements, copying and pasting those elements into their site and restyling them to fit. As Muse designers you probably know this already!

    So we thought why not create a product that's modular in nature - a system of building blocks that you could pick and choose from, but didn't require you to open a full site and copy items out. These building blocks would live in your library panel, and you could drag them out as needed.

    The great / weird thing about responsive Muse is that if we copy and paste an element that has revised layouts for different breakpoints into a NEW .Muse file, all of those responsive layouts will be lost - unless that Muse file has the same breakpoints pre-setup. So all of our stacks will use the same breakpoints, and we'll distribute a base or starter file along with them.

    That's the theory, as we've said this is an experimental product. A pack of Stacks would consist of 10-12 total components. 2-3 header / navigation options, 5 content areas and 2 footers. You could also combine components from different packs of Stacks (since they all use the same breakpoint system) and then just restyle to fit your site.

    We've put together a pack of 2 simple Stacks to get some feedback! Here's how to get started:

    1. Visit our beta testing page (make sure you're signed in to your MT account) and download our sample pack here:
      http://www.muse-themes.com/pages/beta-downloads

    2. Open up the "base" file with preset breakpoints

    3. Navigate to the smallest breakpoint, and drag out a stack. We find it easiest to drop a stack on the smallest layout, and center it as needed (this isn't essential, you can drop at any breakpoint really).

    4. Jump back to any other breakpoint, and see how they stack responds.

    5. Drop more stacks below... build a full site. Make money, win awards, great success!
    This is just a small pack with two content elements, so you won't be able to build a full site. Our goal is to give you a huge variety of layouts, headers, footers, galleries, etc. that you can drag / drop into place to build a full site quickly.

    One important thing to note is about positioning across all breakpoints. Muse seems to position things very randomly across breakpoints. So if you drop something at 960, often it's overlapping other elements on a bigger / smaller BP. We've been trying to find some ways around this (we have some potential solutions) but you still may need to make a positioning adjustment on other breakpoints. To make this easier, the Stack area is grouped and can be moved as a whole.

    What do you guys think?

    Thanks,
    SH
     
  13. Jeremei

    Jeremei Well-Known Member

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    Steve!
    Everything works great in breakpoints 320, 550, 768 and 960. As you mentioned so in breakpoint 1200 there is overlapping. But anyway you have created fantastic tool and I really hope that you can release whole tool asap. : - )
     
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  14. Michael G

    Michael G New Member

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    Hi Steve

    You're definitely on to a winner here. Will obviously save us all a lot of time. Great product.

    Michael G
     
  15. Dallas

    Dallas Member

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    Receiving this error, any ideas? Thanks
     

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  16. calipimousse

    calipimousse Well-Known Member

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    I am having the same problem as Dallas I am getting the same error message. I have tried Steve way and nothing seems to happen.
     
  17. Bruno

    Bruno New Member

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    Who thought stacks would be possible in Muse. That's smart from your side ;-) Congratulations!!!
     
  18. Pete

    Pete Active Member

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    Having same problem - using latest version of Muse. Perhaps the mulib needs to be updated to the latest version? - also this would suggest the instructions are not complete.
     

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  19. DjHerold

    DjHerold Moderator Staff Member Advisory Group

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    May I ask those with the error issue, what platform are you using? Mac or PC?
    Also, are you using the shipped version of Muse or the Beta version. Also, the version should be 2015 1.1.21
    Dj
     
  20. Dallas

    Dallas Member

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    PC. Win10. Same error on both shipping and pre-release builds.
     
    Last edited: Mar 4, 2016

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